Diane Jane ARCHER

____ - ____

Father: Howard Leroy ARCHER
Mother: Hazel Alice THOMPSON

Family 1 : Eugene ANTONE
  1. +Joni Jean ANTONE
Family 2 : Jeffery FRYE
  1.  Ruby FRYE
  2.  Jeffery FRYE

                                                                                                          _Henry Gates ARCHER _+
                                                                                                         | (1786 - 1867) m 1810
                                                                                    _Henry Gates ARCHER _|_Sarah NEWCOMB ______
                                                                                   | (1818 - 1873) m 1841  (1791 - 1860)       
                                                _Rolla ARCHER _____________________|
                                               | (1847 - 1935) m 1869              |
                                               |                                   |                      _____________________
                                               |                                   |                     |                     
                                               |                                   |_Mary W. HARRISON ___|_____________________
                                               |                                      m 1841                                   
                         _Howard Alton ARCHER _|
                        | (1884 - 1963) m 1902 |
                        |                      |                                                          _____________________
                        |                      |                                                         |                     
                        |                      |                                    _John SINNETT _______|_____________________
                        |                      |                                   |                                           
                        |                      |_Henrietta "Etta" SINNETT _________|
                        |                        (1849 - 1937) m 1869              |
                        |                                                          |                      _____________________
                        |                                                          |                     |                     
                        |                                                          |_Margaret SCOTT _____|_____________________
                        |                                                                                                      
 _Howard Leroy ARCHER __|
| (1919 - 1995)         |
|                       |                                                                                 _James HUCKINS ______+
|                       |                                                                                | (1783 - ....)       
|                       |                                                           _Henry Otis HUCKINS _|_Fanny ROBINSON _____
|                       |                                                          | (1819 - 1903)         (1787 - 1846)       
|                       |                       _Sanford G. HUCKINS _______________|
|                       |                      | (1854 - 1919) m 1885              |
|                       |                      |                                   |                      _James MAHAR ________
|                       |                      |                                   |                     | (1760 - 1860) m 1802
|                       |                      |                                   |_Mahala MAHAR _______|_Sarah DUNBAR _______
|                       |                      |                                     (1825 - ....)         (1779 - 1849)       
|                       |_Edna May HUCKINS ____|
|                         (1886 - 1972) m 1902 |
|                                              |                                                          _____________________
|                                              |                                                         |                     
|                                              |                                    _____________________|_____________________
|                                              |                                   |                                           
|                                              |_Elizabeth ("Lizzie") Hannah CARD _|
|                                                (1868 - 1949) m 1885              |
|                                                                                  |                      _____________________
|                                                                                  |                     |                     
|                                                                                  |_____________________|_____________________
|                                                                                                                              
|
|--Diane Jane ARCHER 
|  
|                                                                                                         _____________________
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|                                                                                   _____________________|_____________________
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|                       |                                                          |                      _____________________
|                       |                                                          |                     |                     
|                       |                                                          |_____________________|_____________________
|                       |                                                                                                      
|_Hazel Alice THOMPSON _|
                        |
                        |                                                                                 _____________________
                        |                                                                                |                     
                        |                                                           _____________________|_____________________
                        |                                                          |                                           
                        |                       ___________________________________|
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                        |                      |                                   |_____________________|_____________________
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                                               |                                    _____________________|_____________________
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                                                                                   |                     |                     
                                                                                   |_____________________|_____________________
                                                                                                                               

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John FULLER

[41077]

6 OCT 1689 - 20 JUL 1732

Father: John FULLER
Mother: Hannah MORTON

Family 1 : Thankful GORHAM
  1.  Thankful FULLER

                                                                                         __
                                                                                        |  
                                                                   _Robert FULLER ______|__
                                                                  | (1548 - 1614) m 1572   
                                             _Thomas FULLER ______|
                                            | (1573 - 1659) m 1599|
                                            |                     |                      __
                                            |                     |                     |  
                                            |                     |_Sarah DUNTHORNE ____|__
                                            |                       (1552 - 1584) m 1572   
                       _Mathew FULLER ______|
                      | (1603 - 1678)       |
                      |                     |                                            __
                      |                     |                                           |  
                      |                     |                      _____________________|__
                      |                     |                     |                        
                      |                     |_Audrey GYLMAN ______|
                      |                       (1577 - 1620) m 1599|
                      |                                           |                      __
                      |                                           |                     |  
                      |                                           |_____________________|__
                      |                                                                    
 _John FULLER ________|
| (1644 - ....) m 1678|
|                     |                                                                  __
|                     |                                                                 |  
|                     |                                            _____________________|__
|                     |                                           |                        
|                     |                      _____________________|
|                     |                     |                     |
|                     |                     |                     |                      __
|                     |                     |                     |                     |  
|                     |                     |                     |_____________________|__
|                     |                     |                                              
|                     |_____________________|
|                                           |
|                                           |                                            __
|                                           |                                           |  
|                                           |                      _____________________|__
|                                           |                     |                        
|                                           |_____________________|
|                                                                 |
|                                                                 |                      __
|                                                                 |                     |  
|                                                                 |_____________________|__
|                                                                                          
|
|--John FULLER 
|  (1689 - 1732)
|                                                                                        __
|                                                                                       |  
|                                                                  _____________________|__
|                                                                 |                        
|                                            _____________________|
|                                           |                     |
|                                           |                     |                      __
|                                           |                     |                     |  
|                                           |                     |_____________________|__
|                                           |                                              
|                      _John MORTON ________|
|                     |                     |
|                     |                     |                                            __
|                     |                     |                                           |  
|                     |                     |                      _____________________|__
|                     |                     |                     |                        
|                     |                     |_____________________|
|                     |                                           |
|                     |                                           |                      __
|                     |                                           |                     |  
|                     |                                           |_____________________|__
|                     |                                                                    
|_Hannah MORTON ______|
  (1659 - 1738) m 1678|
                      |                                                                  __
                      |                                                                 |  
                      |                                            _____________________|__
                      |                                           |                        
                      |                      _____________________|
                      |                     |                     |
                      |                     |                     |                      __
                      |                     |                     |                     |  
                      |                     |                     |_____________________|__
                      |                     |                                              
                      |_Lettice KEMPTON ____|
                        (1620 - ....)       |
                                            |                                            __
                                            |                                           |  
                                            |                      _____________________|__
                                            |                     |                        
                                            |_____________________|
                                                                  |
                                                                  |                      __
                                                                  |                     |  
                                                                  |_____________________|__
                                                                                           

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[41077] Find A Grave Memorial 5761993 offers: "Lieut. John Fuller, son of Dr. John Fuller and Hannah Morton, b. in Oct. (day missing) 1689 at Barnstable, Mass. He d. testate at Barnstable July 24, 1732, Æ 43 (g.s.) On June 16, 1710 of record at Barnstable, John m. Thankful Gorham, dau. of Lieut. Col. John Gorham and Mary Otis, b. Feb. 15, 1690/91 at Barnstable. She was appointed Mar. 28, 1733 administratrix of her husband's estate, but no record has been found when she died. John and Thankful had six children both born and baptized of record at Barnstable, who will be summarized at a later date: Hannah, John, twins Bethiah and Mary, Capt. Nathaniel, and Thankful.
In addition to Lieut John Fuller being the paternal great grandson of Edward Fuller of the 1620 Mayflower passage, Thankful (Gorham) Fuller was the paternal great granddau. of John Howland of the 1620 Mayflower passage."

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Lora "Lori" Jean HUNTER

[19917]

____ - ____

Father: Ralph Lee HUNTER
Mother: Thelma SEIBER

Family 1 : Charles Harold "C.H." PRICE
  1.  Kara Renata PRICE
  2.  Colby Hayes PRICE
  3.  Brian Lee PRICE

                                                                                                           __________________________
                                                                                                          |                          
                                                                              ____________________________|__________________________
                                                                             |                                                       
                                               _James Leroy HUNTER __________|
                                              | (1872 - 1930) m 1895         |
                                              |                              |                             __________________________
                                              |                              |                            |                          
                                              |                              |____________________________|__________________________
                                              |                                                                                      
                       _William Henry HUNTER _|
                      | (1897 - 1971) m 1918  |
                      |                       |                                                            __________________________
                      |                       |                                                           |                          
                      |                       |                               ____________________________|__________________________
                      |                       |                              |                                                       
                      |                       |_Phoebe Ethel SIDEY __________|
                      |                         (1876 - 1933) m 1895         |
                      |                                                      |                             __________________________
                      |                                                      |                            |                          
                      |                                                      |____________________________|__________________________
                      |                                                                                                              
 _Ralph Lee HUNTER ___|
| (1931 - 1967)       |
|                     |                                                                                    _Joseph HENSHAW __________
|                     |                                                                                   | (1824 - 1880) m 1850     
|                     |                                                       _William HENSHAW ___________|_Susan Jane DUNN _________
|                     |                                                      | (1852 - 1892)                (1831 - 1894)            
|                     |                        _George Clyde HENSHAW ________|
|                     |                       | (1877 - 1949) m 1896         |
|                     |                       |                              |                             _Jacob EMERY _____________+
|                     |                       |                              |                            | (1819 - 1895)            
|                     |                       |                              |_Catherine Olive EMERY _____|_Anne FOSTER _____________
|                     |                       |                                (1853 - 1886)                (1816 - 1895)            
|                     |_Mary Myranda HENSHAW _|
|                       (1901 - 1963) m 1918  |
|                                             |                                                            _John JOHNSTON ___________
|                                             |                                                           | (1801 - 1875)            
|                                             |                               _Stephen Criswell JOHNSTON _|_Susanna "Anna" CRAWFORD _
|                                             |                              | (1834 - 1910) m 1875                                  
|                                             |_Susan "Susie" Alma JOHNSTON _|
|                                               (1877 - 1954) m 1896         |
|                                                                            |                             _John HEPLER _____________+
|                                                                            |                            | (1818 - 1904)            
|                                                                            |_Elizabeth "Lizzie" HEPLER _|_Susan THORN _____________
|                                                                              (1850 - 1933) m 1875         (1819 - 1906)            
|
|--Lora "Lori" Jean HUNTER 
|  
|                                                                                                          __________________________
|                                                                                                         |                          
|                                                                             ____________________________|__________________________
|                                                                            |                                                       
|                                              ______________________________|
|                                             |                              |
|                                             |                              |                             __________________________
|                                             |                              |                            |                          
|                                             |                              |____________________________|__________________________
|                                             |                                                                                      
|                      _______________________|
|                     |                       |
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|                     |                       |                               ____________________________|__________________________
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|                     |                                                      |____________________________|__________________________
|                     |                                                                                                              
|_Thelma SEIBER ______|
                      |
                      |                                                                                    __________________________
                      |                                                                                   |                          
                      |                                                       ____________________________|__________________________
                      |                                                      |                                                       
                      |                        ______________________________|
                      |                       |                              |
                      |                       |                              |                             __________________________
                      |                       |                              |                            |                          
                      |                       |                              |____________________________|__________________________
                      |                       |                                                                                      
                      |_______________________|
                                              |
                                              |                                                            __________________________
                                              |                                                           |                          
                                              |                               ____________________________|__________________________
                                              |                              |                                                       
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                                                                             |                             __________________________
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[19917] living - details excluded

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Alvah Ellery LEACH

1893 - 1989

Father: Reuben LEACH
Mother: Charlotte ("Lottie") CONARY

Family 1 : Lillian Emily DEVIOU
  1.  Edgar Francis LEACH
  2.  Gertrude Helen LEACH

                                                                                                                _James (Sr.) LEACH __+
                                                                                                               | (1738 - 1822) m 1761
                                                                                    _Joseph LEACH _____________|_Alice FREEMAN ______
                                                                                   | (1773 - ....)               (1739 - 1824)       
                                                              _John LEACH _________|
                                                             | (1799 - 1824) m 1821|
                                                             |                     |                            _____________________
                                                             |                     |                           |                     
                                                             |                     |_Thirza EATON _____________|_____________________
                                                             |                       (1773 - ....)                                   
                                _John L. LEACH ______________|
                               | (1821 - 1866)               |
                               |                             |                                                  _Reuben (Sr.) GRAY __+
                               |                             |                                                 | (1743 - 1832) m 1763
                               |                             |                      _Joab GRAY ________________|_Abigail BLACK ______
                               |                             |                     | (1771 - 1821) m 1794        (1743 - 1820)       
                               |                             |_Tryphena GRAY ______|
                               |                               (1804 - 1878) m 1821|
                               |                                                   |                            _____________________
                               |                                                   |                           |                     
                               |                                                   |_Abigail WILSON ___________|_____________________
                               |                                                     (1774 - 1856) m 1794                            
 _Reuben LEACH ________________|
| (1855 - 1923) m 1878         |
|                              |                                                                                _____________________
|                              |                                                                               |                     
|                              |                                                    ___________________________|_____________________
|                              |                                                   |                                                 
|                              |                              _Frederick SAUNDERS _|
|                              |                             | (1803 - ....) m 1831|
|                              |                             |                     |                            _____________________
|                              |                             |                     |                           |                     
|                              |                             |                     |___________________________|_____________________
|                              |                             |                                                                       
|                              |_Sarah Elizabeth SAUNDERS ___|
|                                (1834 - 1891)               |
|                                                            |                                                  _Joshua GRINDLE _____+
|                                                            |                                                 | (.... - 1819) m 1789
|                                                            |                      _Eliphalet Lowell GRINDLE _|_Anna LOWELL ________
|                                                            |                     | (1769 - 1843) m 1789        (1746 - 1819)       
|                                                            |_Nancy GRINDLE ______|
|                                                              (1812 - 1896) m 1831|
|                                                                                  |                            _Reuben (Sr.) GRAY __+
|                                                                                  |                           | (1743 - 1832) m 1763
|                                                                                  |_Nancy Anne GRAY __________|_Abigail BLACK ______
|                                                                                    (1773 - 1823) m 1789        (1743 - 1820)       
|
|--Alvah Ellery LEACH 
|  (1893 - 1989)
|                                                                                                               _John CONNERY _______
|                                                                                                              | (1714 - ....) m 1737
|                                                                                   _Thomas CONARY ____________|_Rebecca LARABY _____
|                                                                                  | (1745 - 1829) m 1789        (1718 - ....)       
|                                                             _Stephen CONARY _____|
|                                                            |  m 1816             |
|                                                            |                     |                            _Samuel STAPLES _____+
|                                                            |                     |                           | (1707 - ....)       
|                                                            |                     |_Olive STAPLES ____________|_Mercy CANE _________
|                                                            |                       (.... - 1820) m 1789        (1719 - 1796)       
|                               _Nathan Billings CONARY _____|
|                              | (1828 - 1888) m 1850        |
|                              |                             |                                                  _John R. BILLINGS ___+
|                              |                             |                                                 | (1731 - 1803) m 1753
|                              |                             |                      _Benjamin BILLINGS ________|_Hannah FARRAR ______
|                              |                             |                     | (1753 - 1826)               (1737 - 1806)       
|                              |                             |_Abagail BILLINGS ___|
|                              |                               (1790 - ....) m 1816|
|                              |                                                   |                            _Nathan CLOSSON _____+
|                              |                                                   |                           | (1720 - 1788) m 1756
|                              |                                                   |_Abigail CLOSSON __________|_Sarah KEENE ________
|                              |                                                     (1757 - 1840)               (1740 - 1790)       
|_Charlotte ("Lottie") CONARY _|
  (1858 - 1934) m 1878         |
                               |                                                                                _Joshua GRINDLE _____+
                               |                                                                               | (.... - 1819) m 1789
                               |                                                    _Eliphalet Lowell GRINDLE _|_Anna LOWELL ________
                               |                                                   | (1769 - 1843) m 1789        (1746 - 1819)       
                               |                              _John West GRINDLE __|
                               |                             | (1804 - ....) m 1824|
                               |                             |                     |                            _Reuben (Sr.) GRAY __+
                               |                             |                     |                           | (1743 - 1832) m 1763
                               |                             |                     |_Nancy Anne GRAY __________|_Abigail BLACK ______
                               |                             |                       (1773 - 1823) m 1789        (1743 - 1820)       
                               |_Charlote Genevieve GRINDLE _|
                                 (1831 - 1898) m 1850        |
                                                             |                                                  _James MCCAUSLAND ___+
                                                             |                                                 |                     
                                                             |                      _Alexander MCCASLIN _______|_Mary Jane POOR _____
                                                             |                     | (1763 - 1853) m 1788        (1724 - 1824)       
                                                             |_Sarah MCCASLIN _____|
                                                               (1805 - ....) m 1824|
                                                                                   |                            _Reuben (Sr.) GRAY __+
                                                                                   |                           | (1743 - 1832) m 1763
                                                                                   |_Abigail GRAY _____________|_Abigail BLACK ______
                                                                                     (1768 - ....) m 1788        (1743 - 1820)       

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Rotrou of TREVES

[608]

CA 690 - 724

Father: Leutwinus (St. Liévin) of TREVES

Family 1 : Charles Martel, King of FRANKS
  1. +Aude ("Aldane") Martel of AUSTRASIA
  2. +Pippin III ("the Short"), King of FRANKS
  3. +Carloman of the FRANKS
  4.  Chiltrude of the FRANKS
  5. +Hiltrud of the FRANKS

                                                                                                                _____________________________
                                                                                                               |                             
                                                                                        _______________________|_____________________________
                                                                                       |                                                     
                                                            _Bodilon DE TREVES ________|
                                                           |                           |
                                                           |                           |                        _____________________________
                                                           |                           |                       |                             
                                                           |                           |_______________________|_____________________________
                                                           |                                                                                 
                                      _Guerin DE POITIERS _|
                                     |                     |
                                     |                     |                                                    _____________________________
                                     |                     |                                                   |                             
                                     |                     |                            _______________________|_____________________________
                                     |                     |                           |                                                     
                                     |                     |_Sigrada of SOISSONS ______|
                                     |                       (.... - 0678)             |
                                     |                                                 |                        _____________________________
                                     |                                                 |                       |                             
                                     |                                                 |_______________________|_____________________________
                                     |                                                                                                       
 _Leutwinus (St. Liévin) of TREVES _|
| (.... - 0722)                      |
|                                    |                                                                          _Bodegeisel II of AQUITAINE _+
|                                    |                                                                         | (.... - 0588)               
|                                    |                                                  _Saint Arnulf of METZ _|_Oda the SUEVIAN ____________
|                                    |                                                 | (0582 - 0640)                                       
|                                    |                      _Clodoule, Bishop of METZ _|
|                                    |                     |                           |
|                                    |                     |                           |                        _____________________________
|                                    |                     |                           |                       |                             
|                                    |                     |                           |_Dodo of SAXONY _______|_____________________________
|                                    |                     |                             (0581 - ....)                                       
|                                    |_Kunza DE METZ ______|
|                                                          |
|                                                          |                                                    _____________________________
|                                                          |                                                   |                             
|                                                          |                            _______________________|_____________________________
|                                                          |                           |                                                     
|                                                          |___________________________|
|                                                                                      |
|                                                                                      |                        _____________________________
|                                                                                      |                       |                             
|                                                                                      |_______________________|_____________________________
|                                                                                                                                            
|
|--Rotrou of TREVES 
|  (.... - 0724)
|                                                                                                               _____________________________
|                                                                                                              |                             
|                                                                                       _______________________|_____________________________
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|                                                           ___________________________|
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|                                                          |                           |                        _____________________________
|                                                          |                           |                       |                             
|                                                          |                           |_______________________|_____________________________
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|                                     _____________________|
|                                    |                     |
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|                                    |                     |                            _______________________|_____________________________
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|                                    |                     |___________________________|
|                                    |                                                 |
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|                                    |                                                 |_______________________|_____________________________
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|____________________________________|
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                                     |                                                  _______________________|_____________________________
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                                     |                      ___________________________|
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                                     |_____________________|
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                                                           |                            _______________________|_____________________________
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                                                           |___________________________|
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                                                                                       |                        _____________________________
                                                                                       |                       |                             
                                                                                       |_______________________|_____________________________
                                                                                                                                             

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AKA Chrothrudis de Trèves. "The Carolingians," Pierre Riché (Philadelpha: U of PA Press, 1993), Table 2, states Charles Martel m. (1) Chrotrude (d. 724) and (3) Rudhaid (mother of Bernard whose sons are Adalhard (d. 826; Abbot of Corbie) and Wala (d. 836; Abbot of Corbie). Cf. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotrude_of_Trier.

Rotrou may NOT be daughter of Leutwinus, Bishop of Treves - see www.rootsweb.com/~medieval/addcharlENG.pdf. which offers:

". . . the most important correction concerns the ancestry of Rotrude, wife of Charles Martel. Let us briefly recall the details of this problem: We can be assured from the agreement of several lines of evidence that the first wife of Charles Martel was named Rotrude, but with that name our certainty ends. The name itself, which would become frequent in the offspring of the Carolingians, was rather rare at this time, so it can serve as an initial clue concerning the previous history of its owner. Among the great families of the time, there were only a few who used the radical "Rot" of Rotrude. We have the Agilolfings, then encountered in Bavaria or in Lombardy (Rodoald), also a duke of Le Mans named Roger of whom the exact antecedents are not known, but especially there was the powerful family of the Robert who originated in Burgundy and then settled in Belgian Hesbaye. On simple onomastic grounds, one must agree with R. Gerberding that Rotrude's name links her with the family of Roger or, better, with that of Robert.

"We have to clarify a little. We can set aside for the moment the family of Roger (which can be identified thanks to his children’s names). In fact, the name of Landrada, daughter of Charles Martel and Rotrude, allows certain links with Robert’s family which also used this name: Robert, duke of Hesbaye towards 740 was the paternal nephew of a Landrada.

"So, Rotrude was likely connected in a rather close way with the clan of Robert / Lambert. Nevertheless, most genealogists give her as a daughter of St. Lievin, bishop of Trier, which R. Gerberding judged to be an "unfortunate conjecture". This theory is founded on the text of the Gesta of the abbots of Fontenelle, which certifies that the abbot Guy, known to be a son of St. Lievin, was the "close kin" of Charles Martel. The Latin term (propinquus) is vague and can indicate a cousin as well as a relation by marriage (brother-in-law). In 1915, the young German historian A. Halbedel, who would shortly fall in battle, suggested that the relationship could be explained if Rotrude was the sister of Guy. The hypothesis gained widespread acceptance in Germany and in France, where it was accepted by J. Depoin and M. Chaume. While recognizing the extreme fragility of the only positive testimony, one can not help but to also reject the main objection of R. Gerberding: that the exclusively local political influence of Charles Martel before 716 would make alliance with an Austrasian family improbable. The agnatic origin of Charles, from Metz, makes this doubt peremptory and not very probable.

"In fact, it is almost certain that the family of Guy (Widonides) had become allied with that of Robert / Lambert. In two acts (two forgeries, but with authentic signa) of Arnulf and Hugues, nephews of Charles Martel, for the years 706 and 715, we have the signa of "Milon, Guy, Guerimbert, Lambert and Garnier ". Now, Milon was the brother of Guy, Grimbert possibly an uncle or a cousin, and Garnier a son or a likely nephew of Guy. Lambert is thus certainly a close relative of this group. Moreover Metlach's convent, founded by St. Lievin, had among its first four abbots one Lambert and one Robert. Lambert's name would become, along with Guy and Garnier, one of three main names of the Widonides. And the root "Rot" also is encountered in the Widonid family with Roger or Rodoald in the 8th century.

"So, the idea of a relationship between Rotrude and the Widonides through a common alliance with the family of Lambert / Robert seems reasonable. But this link does not allow the establishment of a precise filiation. For that, let us examine the other various meanings of the word propinquus which describes the relationship between Charles and Guy. There are no Widonid names in Charles Martel's ancestry. In the same way, no relative of Guy carries a name that one
can find in the ancestry of Charles. Sure, our documentation is so defective (particularly for the mother of Charles and that of Guy) that it makes any conclusion rash, but the great number of names known on both sides, for direct ancestors as well as collateral kin, points out the unlikelihood of an alliance between the families of Charles Martel and Guy in the generations before theirs. In light of this, the possible solutions are reduced:


- Guy or one of his brothers married a sister of Charles Martel.
- Guy or one of his brothers married a sister-in-law of Charles, a sister of Rotrude.
- Charles married a sister or a cousin of Guy.


"If the wife of Charles or Guy was a relative more remote than a sister of the other (niece or cousin), the Latin term propinquus would not be employed in a correct (attested) sense. This lack of such attested use for propinquus argues also against the second solution. Against the first solution is the lack of Pippinid onomastics in the posterity of Guy (which would become successively count of Nantes, dukes of Spoleto, and emperors, succeeding as the Salian imperial dynasty). The same argument is less applicable to the third case, because the Pippinids were much more illustrious than the Widonids. This is the reasoning we used in our work. But, on second thought, we do not believe it as clear as formerly: the argument is too uncertain.

"Finally, it is necessary to remember a major problem with this reconstruction: nothing proves that the relationship between Charles and Guy involved Rotrude. Indeed, Charles had at least three wives or partners: Rotrude, Swanechilde and Rothaide. By the last one he probably had a son named Bernard, father of Corbie's abbot Adalard. Now, Adalard is the name of a brother of Garnier I of Hornbach, likely nephew of Guy. One can thus believe that it is Rothaide who establishes the link between Guy and Charles. But, even in this case, one can conclude that Rothaide is certainly a relative of Rotrude, of whom her name is only a variant. Moreover, Pippin of Herstal, son of Rotrude, nevertheless named one of his daughters Rothaide.

"The only conclusion of this discussion is that Rotrude was certainly a kinswoman of the Robert / Lambert family, perhaps directly, or perhaps through the family of St. Lievin. In any case, we have to correct what we wrote about the links between St. Lievin and Robert. For the study of these families, we followed H. Lemmel. This was an error, for the study of H. Lemmel is of poor quality. A fresh look at the documentation shows the existence of two distinct groups, certainly akin : one is that of the Agilolfings and Lambert, and the other one is that of the Widonids and Lambert. The distinction between the two is really important because we must then identify the wife of Lievin, Wisigarde, as a woman of the Agilolfing clan.

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