_Eberhard III, Count of Lower ALSACE _+
| (0853 - 0920)
_Hugues I, Count of Lower ALSACE __________|_Adelaide DE VERMANDOIS ______________
| (.... - 0940)
_Gerard ("Eberhard IV"), Count of Lower ALSACE _|
| (.... - 0966) |
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| |_Hildegarde DE FERRETTE ___________________|______________________________________
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_Adalbert, Count of METZ _|
| (0974 - 1033) |
| | _Gerard I, Count of METZ _____________+
| | | (.... - 0910)
| | _Adalbert III, Count of METZ ______________|______________________________________
| | | (.... - 0940)
| |_Luitgarde of METZ _____________________________|
| (.... - 0986) |
| | _Voiry ("Wigeric"), Count D'ARDENNES _+
| | | (.... - 0918)
| |_Luitgarde D'ARDENNES _____________________|______________________________________
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_Gérard de Bourzonville, Count of METZ _|
| (.... - 1047) |
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| |_Judith of LUXEMBURG _____|
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|--Gérard III of ALSACE
| (.... - 1070)
| _Eberhard III, Count of Lower ALSACE _+
| | (0853 - 0920)
| _Hugues I, Count of Lower ALSACE __________|_Adelaide DE VERMANDOIS ______________
| | (.... - 0940)
| _Gerard ("Eberhard IV"), Count of Lower ALSACE _|
| | (.... - 0966) |
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| | |_Hildegarde DE FERRETTE ___________________|______________________________________
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| _Hugues III VON EGISHEIM _|
| | (.... - 0984) |
| | | _Gerard I, Count of METZ _____________+
| | | | (.... - 0910)
| | | _Adalbert III, Count of METZ ______________|______________________________________
| | | | (.... - 0940)
| | |_Luitgarde of METZ _____________________________|
| | (.... - 0986) |
| | | _Voiry ("Wigeric"), Count D'ARDENNES _+
| | | | (.... - 0918)
| | |_Luitgarde D'ARDENNES _____________________|______________________________________
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|_Gisèle of Lower ALSACE ________________|
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|_Berlinda of ORTENBURG ___|
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| _Carloman, King of Bavaria And ITALY _+
| | (0828 - 0880)
| _Arnulf of Bavaria & Italy, Roman EMPEROR _|_Luitwinde VON NORDGAU _______________
| | (.... - 0899)
|_Glismode of BAVARIA ___________________________|
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| _Berengar I of NEUSTRIA ______________+
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|_Ota of BAVARIA ___________________________|______________________________________
(.... - 0903)
[2438] The LDS Church's unverified IGI file gives his date of death as 4 April 1070. Cf. http://www.stirnet.com/HTML/genie/continent/ll/lorraine03.htm (not verified) which gives slightly different information for this line. http://home.wxs.nl/~voort359/home3alsac.html states he is "Gérard II of Alsace, Count of Bouzonville, Count of Châtenois, Duke of Upper-Lorraine." Also see http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gérard_Ier_de_Lorraine.
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| (1701 - 1754) |
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| | _Anthony SNOW _______|_____________________
| | | (1619 - 1692) m 1639
| | _Josiah SNOW ________|
| | | (1655 - 1692) |
| | | | _Richard WARREN _____
| | | | | (.... - 1628) m 1610
| | | |_Abigail WARREN _____|_Elizabeth WALKER ___
| | | (1618 - 1692) m 1639 (.... - 1673)
| |_Sarah SNOW _________|
| (1680 - 1725) |
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| |_Rebecca BARKER _____|
| (1650 - 1711) |
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| (1741 - 1833)
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(1701 - 1760) |
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_Robert ELWELL ______|_____________________
| (.... - 1683)
_Isaac ELWELL _______|
| (1641 - 1715) m 1665|
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| |_Joanne DOLLIVER ____|_____________________
| (1600 - 1675)
_Eleazer ELWELL _____|
| (1673 - ....) |
| | _Henry MYLLET _______+
| | | (.... - 1630)
| | _Thomas MILLETT _____|_Joice CHAPMAN ______
| | | (1605 - 1676) (1577 - 1628)
| |_Mehitable MILLETT __|
| (1641 - 1699) m 1665|
| | _John GREENAWAY _____
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| |_Mary GREENAWAY _____|_____________________
| (1606 - 1683)
_David ELWELL _______|
| (1703 - 1732) m 1727|
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|--Rachel ELWELL
| (1732 - ....)
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| | (.... - 1717) |
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| | (1682 - 1748) m 1708|
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|_Sarah MARINER ______|
(1709 - 1732) m 1727|
| _John SAWYER ________+
| | (1582 - 1660) m 1605
| _Edward SAWYER ______|_Agnes SHARPE _______
| | (1608 - 1703) m 1654 (1583 - 1634)
| _James SAWYER _______|
| | (1632 - 1703) m 1670|
| | | _Joseph PEASLEE _____
| | | | (1600 - 1660) m 1625
| | |_Mary PEASLEY _______|_Mary JOHNSON _______
| | (1610 - 1693) m 1654 (1604 - 1694)
|_Sarah SAWYER _______|
(1683 - 1724) m 1708|
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| | (1604 - 1691) m 1646
|_Sarah BRAY _________|
(1651 - 1727) m 1670|
| _John WILSON ________
| | (1625 - 1687)
|_Mary WILSON ________|_____________________
(.... - 1707) m 1646
[25890] Virginia Horler states that Rachel is daughter of David Elwell and Sarah Mariner. Her descent from Isaac Elwell is from OneWorldTree in Ancestry.com in 2010 and is not verified.
_Béla II Arpád, King of HUNGARY _+
| (.... - 1141)
_Geisa II Arpád, King of HUNGARY _________|_Jelena of SERBIA _________________
| m 1146
_Béla III Arpád, King of HUNGARY _|
| (1148 - 1196) m 1171 |
| | ___________________________________
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| |_Githa (or EUPHROSINE) ____________________|___________________________________
| (1130 - 1186) m 1146
_Andrew II, King of HUNGARY _____________|
| (1176 - 1235) |
| | _Henry I DE CHâTILLON ____________
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| | _Renaud DE CHâTILLON _____________________|_Ermengarde DE MONTJOY ____________
| | | (.... - 1187) m 1152
| |_Agnes (or Anne) of CHâTILLON _____|
| (1154 - 1184) m 1171 |
| | _Bohemond II, Prince of ANTIOCH ___+
| | | (1107 - 1131)
| |_Constance GUISCARD _______________________|_Alix of EDESSA ___________________
| (1127 - 1163) m 1152 (.... - 1131)
_Béla IV of HUNGARY _______|
| (1206 - 1270) |
| | _Berthold II, Count of ANDECH _____+
| | | (.... - 1188)
| | _Berthold III, Duke of MERAN ______________|_Cunigunda of FORMBACH ____________
| | | (.... - 1188) (.... - 1176)
| | _Berthold IV, Duke of MERAN ________|
| | | (.... - 1204) |
| | | | _Conrad II, Duke of DALMATIA ______+
| | | | | (.... - 1168)
| | | |_Hedwig of SAXONY _________________________|_Agnes of PUTELENBERG _____________
| | |
| |_Gertrude of MERAN ______________________|
| (1185 - 1213) |
| | _Conrad I, Count of WETTIN ________+
| | | (1098 - 1157) m 1119
| | _Dedo, Count of ROCHLITZ __________________|_Luitgard of ELCHINGEN-RAVENSTEIN _
| | | (.... - 1190) m 1165 (.... - 1146)
| |_Agnes of ROCHLITZ _________________|
| (1163 - 1195) |
| | _Goswin II, Count of HEINSBURG ____+
| | | (.... - 1170)
| |_Matilda of HEINSBURG _____________________|_Adelheid of SOMMERSCHENBOURG _____
| (1138 - 1189) m 1165
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|--Anna of HUNGARY
| (1226 - ....)
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| _Theodore I Laskaris, Emperor of NICAEA _|
| | (.... - 1221) m 1153 |
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|_Maria Laskaris of HUNGARY _|
(.... - 1270) |
| _Constantinus ANGELUS _____________
| | m 1110
| _Andronicus ANGELUS _______________________|_Theodora Comnena of BYZANTIUM ____
| | (1096 - ....)
| _Alexius III, EMPEROR ______________|
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| | |_Euphrosyne Castamonita of CONSTANTINOPLE _|___________________________________
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|_Anna Angelina of CONSTANTINOPLE ________|
(.... - 1212) m 1153 |
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[39369] See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_of_Hungary,_Duchess_of_Macs%C3%B3.
_Robert KINSMAN _____+
| (1603 - 1664)
_Robert KINSMAN _____|_____________________
| (1629 - 1712) m 1652
_Joseph KINSMAN _____|
| (1673 - 1741) |
| | _Thomas BOREMAN _____+
| | | (.... - 1679) m 1630
| |_Mary BOREMAN _______|_Margaret OFFING ____
| (1631 - ....) m 1652 (1610 - 1679)
_Benjamin KINSMAN ___|
| (1719 - 1794) m 1740|
| | _Robert DUTCH _______
| | | (1623 - 1686)
| | _John DUTCH _________|_Mary KIMBALL _______
| | | (1646 - 1685) (.... - 1686)
| |_Susanna DUTCH ______|
| (1675 - 1734) |
| | _Walter ROPER _______+
| | | (1614 - 1680)
| |_Elizabeth ROPER ____|_____________________
| (.... - 1692)
_Robert KINSMAN _____|
| (1747 - 1820) m 1773|
| | _John PERKINS _______+
| | | (1609 - 1686)
| | _Jacob PERKINS ______|_____________________
| | | (1646 - 1719)
| | _Robert PERKINS _____|
| | | (1695 - ....) m 1718|
| | | | _Robert KINSMAN _____+
| | | | | (1629 - 1712) m 1652
| | | |_Sarah KINSMAN ______|_Mary BOREMAN _______
| | | (1659 - ....) (1631 - ....)
| |_Elizabeth PERKINS __|
| (.... - 1806) m 1740|
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| |_Elizabeth DOUTON ___|
| (.... - 1763) m 1718|
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(.... - 1782) m 1773|
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[16781] Sarah m. Jedediah Ells.
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_Emich Carl of LEININGEN ______________|
| (1763 - 1818) m 1803 |
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_Carl Friedrich Wilhelm Emich of LEININGEN _|
| (1804 - 1856) m 1829 |
| | _Franz Josias, Duke of SACHSEN-COBURG-SAALFELD _+
| | | (1697 - 1764) m 1723
| | _Ernst Friedrich, Duke of SAXE-COBURG _|_Anna Sophie of SCHWARZBURG-RUDOLSTADT _________
| | | (1724 - 1800) m 1749 (1700 - 1780)
| | _Franz Frederick Anton, Duke of SAXE-COBURG __________|
| | | (1750 - 1806) m 1777 |
| | | | _Ferdinand Albert II, Duke of BRUNSWICK ________
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| | | |_Sophie Antonie of BRUNSWICK __________|________________________________________________
| | | (1724 - 1802) m 1749
| |_Victoria Maria Louisa of SAXE-COBURG _|
| (1786 - 1861) m 1803 |
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| | _Henry XXIV, Count of REUSS-EBERSDORF _|________________________________________________
| | | (1724 - 1779) m 1754
| |_Auguste Caroline Sophie of Lobenstein and EBERSDORF _|
| (1757 - 1831) m 1777 |
| | ________________________________________________
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| |_Caroline ERBACH-SCHONBERG ____________|________________________________________________
| (1727 - 1796) m 1754
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|--Ernst Leopold Victor Carl August Joseph Emich of LEININGEN
| (1830 - 1904)
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|_Maria KLEBELSBERG _________________________|
(1806 - 1880) m 1829 |
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[33650] See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Leopold,_4th_Prince_of_Leiningen.
_John MARTINDALE ____
| m 1621
_John MARTINDALE ____|_Jane RUMNAL ________
| (1620 - 1693) m 1666 (1598 - 1621)
_John MARTINDALE ____|
| (1676 - 1750) m 1706|
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| |_Ann TUCKER _________|_____________________
| (1646 - 1676) m 1666
_John MARTINDALE ____|
| (1719 - 1826) |
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| |_Mary BRIDGEMAN _____|
| (1687 - 1726) m 1706|
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_Thomas MARTINDALE __|
| (1765 - 1852) m 1789|
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| |_Mary STRICKLAND ____|
| (1728 - 1769) |
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|--Sarah MARTINDALE
| (1795 - 1848)
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|_Mary BOOTHE ________|
(1771 - 1818) m 1789|
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_Nathaniel MCFANN ___|
| (1804 - 1880) |
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| |_Sarah SARGENT ________________________|
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|--Julia Ann(a) MCFANN
| (1832 - 1893)
| _John BRUCE ______________+
| | (.... - 1748) m 1709
| _James BRUCE ________|_Sarah PARRELL ___________
| | (1720 - 1818) (1690 - 1748)
| _William A. BRUCE ____|
| | (1745 - 1818) |
| | | _Colonel William MCMAHAN _
| | | | (.... - 1749)
| | |_Margaret MCMAHAN ___|__________________________
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| _William (Jr.) BRUCE __________________|
| | (1776 - ....) |
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| | |_Maria "Polly" LUCAS _|
| | (1745 - 1805) |
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|_Rachel BRUCE _______|
(1801 - 1887) |
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|_Barbara, wife of William (Jr.) BRUCE _|
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[1979] She and John had seven children.
[55340] The unverified file LDQQ-J24 in familysearch.org offers: "When Mary Mitchell was born in 1729, in Scarborough, Cumberland, Maine, United States, her father, Christopher Mitchell, was 21 and her mother, Deborah Mills, was 15. She married Joseph Getchell II on 17 July 1750, in Scarborough, Cumberland, Maine, United States. They were the parents of at least 2 sons and 1 daughter. She died in Machias, Washington, Maine, United States."
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_Joseph Francois RODRIGUE ____|_______________________________
| (1837 - 1898)
_Charles Francois RODRIGUE _______|
| (1862 - 1889) |
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_Joseph T. RODERICK ____|
| (1885 - 1967) m 1906 |
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_Joseph Thomas RODERICK _|
| (1919 - 1984) m 1944 |
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| |_Flora Mae IRELAND _____|
| (1885 - 1949) m 1906 |
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|--Joseph Thomas RODERICK
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| _George MACE __________________+
| | (1786 - 1834) m 1808
| _Ansel Jefferson MACE ________|_Hannah HARPER ________________
| | (1824 - 1874) m 1851 (1790 - 1877)
| _Albert E. MACE __________________|
| | (1855 - 1914) m 1891 |
| | | _William Hiram (Jr) HARPER ____+
| | | | (1793 - 1858)
| | |_Dorinda M. HARPER ___________|_Elizabeth ("Betsy") APPLETON _
| | (1832 - 1912) m 1851 (1798 - 1896)
| _Asa Russell MACE ______|
| | (1892 - 1966) m 1917 |
| | | _Simeon WILLIAMS ______________+
| | | | (.... - 1858)
| | | _Asa K. WILLIAMS _____________|_Harriet KENNEY _______________
| | | | (1828 - 1894) m 1858 (.... - 1877)
| | |_Bertha Emily WILLIAMS ___________|
| | (1864 - 1904) m 1891 |
| | | _Samuel (Jr.) DUNN ____________+
| | | | (1804 - 1883) m 1830
| | |_Direxa Esther DUNN __________|_Julia Ann ARCHER _____________
| | (1831 - 1912) m 1858 (1808 - 1882)
|_Bertha Emily MACE ______|
(1923 - 1975) m 1944 |
| _Wheeler B. TRACY _____________+
| | (1765 - 1827)
| _Levi M. TRACY _______________|_Sarah ("Sally") WAKEFIELD ____
| | (1804 - 1871) (1773 - ....)
| _William Emery TRACEY ____________|
| | (1851 - 1919) m 1875 |
| | | _______________________________
| | | |
| | |______________________________|_______________________________
| |
|_Gladyce Maxine TRACEY _|
(1898 - 1982) m 1917 |
| _Benjamin SALISBURY ___________+
| | (1801 - 1884) m 1857
| _Benjamin Franklin SALISBURY _|_Clarissa GOOGINS _____________
| | (1832 - 1908) m 1855 (1801 - 1856)
|_Addie Elzina ("Ella") SALISBURY _|
(1857 - 1916) m 1875 |
| _William WALKER _______________+
| | (1790 - 1880)
|_Mary Ella WALKER ____________|_Mary ("Polly") POOR __________
(1836 - 1911) m 1855 (1796 - 1876)
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